Service Animal Laws and Social Media Tattle Tales - Episode 64
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- Опубликовано: 24 мар 2025
- I've long been an advocate or regulating service animals on planes (and everywhere for that matter) and it might finally be coming to fruition. In this podcast I check in on the news that states that the US might begin regulating, to some degree, what animals can be service animals - and that should be limited to dogs!
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Also, I delve into the issue of the tattle tales on social media sites like NEXT DOOR. People who have no lives of their own and constantly try to interfere in everyone else's lives.
So, its a great episode of dog talk with no holds barred....
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I’ve owner trained my service dog for over eight months, and even though he’s consistent with 20-30 commands and tasks, I’ve only worked him in public recently to be sure he would be a good example. I can only walk with crutches and live alone, and though Baron is life changing for me- he’s also a lot of work! I would love to be able to just run to the store etc, people acting like having a service dog is treat, I know they (thankfully) really don’t understand what it’s like to truly need one. Thank you as always for fair, clear info!
My local Nextdoor must be an extreme exception to what it’s usually like. I’ve found it a very nice way to keep in touch with the neighborhood. We share information like if someone has seen a bear around and to be careful. We also post things such as lost animal notifications.
When we were in full lockdown we organized decorating our houses and “hiding” something fun our windows. Families had to find a way to engage their kids, so we all created a scavenger hunt with our window decorations for them.
People share information about what plumbers, electricians, contractors, etc that are good to use.
The neighborhoods have also organized picnics and such.
We do also keep each other up-to-date on the latest local news and try to keep our community safe. I’ve seen so many offers to help others with groceries, yard work, etc. I even met a lady who gave me free sewing lessons.
Our area must be quite the exception!
Yes! Spot on. We lose many Raisers because of these points you spoke about. The fake dog or even non compliant person has hurt our industry.
Not an industry
Lost your web address for training classes I belong to it but forgot to save the link and also believe I forgot password and login
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Thank you, thank you! I work in a retail pharmacy. People bring in their pets all the time. Thankfully most have been well behaved, but they are not service dogs. It irritates me so much. We can't say anything because we'll upset the customer.
I'm an Rx Tech as well, the first retailer I worked for did this as well. They taught us the law, then told us not to use it. The pharmacy I have worked in for the last 5 years, they have nothing in their policy about it. For now, it's open season for "what tasks does your dog do for you?" Dogs just don't belong in retailers, unless expressly welcomed. They belong the pharmacy even less so.
@wowalinbie are we talking about the same socialization here? Bc there are WAY better opportunities for socializing a dog at Lowe's, Rural King, pet stores, outside dog parks, your veterinarian's office, and TSC. ALL of these places offer screaming children, men in hats, rattling carts, men with deep voices, men with sunglasses on, loud lifts. The folks in flooring, they are happy to take down a sample in trade for puppy kisses. Folks are usually too busy to interrupt an out of sight "stay." Going into a grocery store or pharmacy with a puppy in your purse, it's attention seeking. No one needs an ill mannered Chihuahua tap dancing across a pharmacy counter.
@wowalinbie are you sure we are talking about the same kind of "socialization practices?" Its difficult to tell. Meeting new people isn't as important as learning to get along with other dogs.
It’s funny you mentioned the poop bags. If someone leaves their trash cans on the street I will drop one in there while we’re out on a walk so I don’t have to carry it home. I’ve been waiting for it to show up on the Nextdoor news feed 😂 it wouldn’t bother me one bit if someone did it to our trash cans, I’m just glad they pick it up.
Agreed!! In Norway people get upset about it too! Id be happy if people threw their poop bags in my trash can rather than throwing it in the ditch
I think it boils down to common sense and self responsibility. I have autism and a service dog that I take with me everywhere that's appropriate. Most of the time I'm not pulling the service dog card because she is welcomed on her own merits into places that allow well behaved, friendly dogs. She is a lab, has better manners than most people, is well socialized, and friendly with everyone. I also respect business owners and don't take her into restaurants and grocery stores where it may offend their other customers. It's REALLY important to have a well trained dog. I'm not a trainer but I love my dog and know that if she is well trained it'll be appreciated and we'll be welcomed with open arms.
I can't have someone else train my dog because she has to be able to read and respond to MY energy levels and patterns. It's a tough thing for a dog because they're usually mirroring our energy and I need her to know when and how to take the lead on that. I make a lot of training mistakes along the way but I stick to it and always end up with a happy well behaved dog I'm proud to be with. My dog is truly my best friend and we work as a team. Without her if you met me in public I wouldn't even engage you, and it would be very difficult for you to engage me. She is a living bridge between me and society and the ultimate ice breaker. I call her "my ambassador of good will" :)
When I was a Trainer working in a local grocery store- a woman took out her phone and took pictures of me and my well-behaved, well-trained GSD. An off duty k9 policeman approached and began asking friendly questions, standing between camera-woman and me. This was before the venomous "nextdoor" app.
I fully expected the busy-body to put our pictures on wastebook, but I did not care. Someone had alerted the manager. He knew the rules approached and abode them kindly and professionally without violating existing ADA.
I'm a CPDT who has been sidelined by orthopedic issues. My dog is a Canine Good Citizen. I do have PTSD and a medical doctor's current prescription for a Service Dog. Nevertheless, ignorance pervades and confrontations come. Adult bullies worsen conditions in folks with "hidden wounds" and even with all the creds and law on our side, I'm drawn to withdraw, which is obviously counter to healing.
Thank you for this sensible piece today.
People with fake service dogs do huge disservice to the disabled that truly need to have their legit service dogs with them, we see this every time we go to the grocery stores in our area. The whole Emotional Support Animal thing on planes has literally become a three rings circus.
Goofy's focus on the food bags is everything 🤣
@wowalinbie Read my comment! I am very familiar with the ADA. People that believe they r so entitled that they have the right to impose on others with their pets and farm animals are messing it up for people that have a legit need to have the animal with them.
*Grocery stores*:
According to the ADA only service animals (no emotional support animals) r allowed in grocery stores. I cannot tell you how many people I see with their pet dogs in there, sometimes even 2 dogs (no one needs 2 service dogs with them). It is obvious these r pets because they r poorly trained, some pee in the aisles (even by the produce), bark at and lunge at other dogs, r distracted and looking around instead of focusing on the handler (which a service dog needs to be)...you get the idea.
One guy had a dog with a severe flea infestation and allergy (all the hair on the back end of the dog was gone and you could see flea droppings on the skin of the dog) and was allowing the animal to get up on his hind legs and put his front paws on the crates of vegetables to check out the contents (this was at Trader Joe's). Fleas will get on vegetables, btw.
*Airlines* (where emotional support animals are allowed):
Traveling is stressful enough without having someone's pig, male peacock, miniature horse or even just a dog in your space. People pay good money for already crammed up flying conditions, they don't need the extra aggravation and, possibly, being injured by an animal.
Again, if the person needs the animal because of a legit disability so be it.
But people that believe they have the right to have their animals with them at the expense of other paying customers are wrong.
And airlines are responding by now making it more difficult for people with disabilities to have their ESA with them. Thank you entitled brats!
There is always the option of making arrangements for the animal to stay at home or be boarded while the owner is traveling, should the welfare of the animal be a concern.
P.S. Fining owners for poorly behaved animals is not going to change anything as people are just going to keep paying fines and imposing with their critters. A fine system is also going to be hard to implement and would cause even more outrage and push back from the ever entitled morons that r causing the problems in the first place.
@wowalinbie There.Are.Reasons.Animals.Are.Not.Allowed.On.Airplanes. It doesn't matter what bothers and doesn't bother u. There is a whole world out there just past the tip of your nose. Stop focusing on you and believing this is your world and everyone else just lives in it.
@Tiny Princess Small dogs that are to be kept in a travel crate stored under the owner's seat.
Not large breeds of dogs, peacocks, pot belly pigs, miniature horses and what other zoo people were taking with them
@@thejindoman7471 Oh boy. You know I enjoy seeing your posts, Jindo Man, and respect your opinions!! I would NEVER fake my German Shepherd as a Service Animal on an airplane, for ethical reasons.
In my area, I NEVER see dogs in stores that don't act like perfect "legit" Service Dogs. I've honestly NEVER seen that....(true confession coming next...)
...Including my own. Like I said, I'd NEVER fake my boy onto an airplane. EVER. Even "legit" Service Dogs can pose problems in an enclosed area for people with allergies. While I do believe someone like Robert or Haz could get away with bringing Goofy or Gage onto a plane in a vest, and no one would be the wiser, they wouldn't do it either. It's just not ethical or fair to other passengers (you never know who might have a serious allergy, regardless of how sharp a dog's obedience is) and most especially, to people who really need their Service Dogs with them.
But I often bring Andreas to the grocery store late at night, during the hour or two before closing. He remains at perfect heel the entire time, does auto-sit when I stop right at my side, or lays down if I'm standing in one spot comparing items or looking something up on my phone for awhile.
I'm NOT justifying my behavior. I'm confessing, lol. We'll be doing "Therapy Dog" in a local level 2 trauma hospital once COVID is behind us. Shopping carts are similar to wheelchairs and rolling stretchers. Learning he CAN'T sniff things when his harness is on is very helpful (whether it's nose level salamis or cheeses in the deli, or chest tube drains, cardiac drains, catheter bags, or soiled laundry in a hospital laundry bag).
I swear, if you saw us, you'd definitely think he was a legit Service Dog. I bring him occasionally when it's not crowded as a training exercise. And this may sound really stupid, but the late night employees really love him & welcome him. One of the employees is a friend and knows he's not really a disability Service Dog. The others assume he is. A manager recently insisted on buying him a bag of treats, even though I begged her not to.
His behavior in stores is sharp & perfect. And I didn't do this until I knew his behavior would be. Of course, we do Home Depot & pet stores all the time. The grocery store offers some very valuable training until we can get back into hospitals eventually. Please don't "hate us". I swear, you'd be convinced he was a real Service Dog if you saw us!!
~~end of "true confession"~~
@@Karina-Loves-Andreas Hey there! You know I could never hate you guys 💖.
Andreas is a VERY well trained doggo and you are respectful by going to the grocery store during off hours.
And you don't have any sense of entitlement about this.
The crazymakers at the local Trader Joe's, Pavilions and the like are a whole different ball game.
And Air Lines had to change their ESA rules because people were getting K-razy bringing all sorts of animals (not just dogs) including peacocks (there's news footage of some lady walking through an airport with a male peacock perched on her shoulder, oy...), pot belly pigs, miniature horses...It was a slap in the face to people that paid for their seats and detrimental to passengers that truly needed an animal for emotional support.
Always enjoy chatting with you. Looking forward to vids of your boy doing therapy work 🤗 in the future.
Hugs to you and Andreas.
I use a Chuckit for my 5 month old lab because if I didn't my friggin arm would have fallen off by now. I'm lucky enough to have a huge yard with a couple acres of woods in the back so we take full advantage. It's good because she also learns scent work and how to think strategically. It's good mental AND physical exercise. I'm about to turn 60 and there's no way I could give her the exercise she needs just walking her on a leash. A treadmill wouldn't give her the mental stimulation and coordination exercise she gets from fetching a couple hundred times a day. Yeah she twists, turns, jumps, flips, and rolls, but she has a blast doing and just as importantly, so do I. We have a lot of fallen trees we leave for the woodpeckers, logs, and a giant brush pile that's like 8 feet high. She's like a mountain goat on all of it. I cringe a little sometimes watching her, but she never comes back with a single mark on her and gets better at it every day. I think it's like firewalking, she is so focused and engaged that it has no harmful effects :)
Bravo; great video!
I train basic obedience. I have SO many new clients that start class with, “I want my dog to be a service dog”. When asked why, the most common response is anxiety. I get that some people have severe anxiety and need help in public but too many times, I see this as an excuse to take a dog everywhere. Too often, after basic training, I see the same dogs in public, wearing a ‘service’ harness but these dogs are just companions. They’re not working. Some are dressed in costumes for holidays. Some are running around off leash when they should be right next to their owners. I’ve seen small service dogs at restaurants, sitting on the booth bench at the table. You’re right Rob, the service dog privilege is really being abused and sadly, it’s lost its credibility.
I have epilepsy, my dog was not trained, therefore she stays home. Just saying. I mean she’s trained, just not trained in seizure detection etc.
Yes. Thanks for bringing this out. The U.S. DOT announced they would be revising rules on Dec. 2, 2020 on their website. About time.
Don’t waste your time with he said/she said gossip. If people can’t be kind to others, how do they really treat their animals?
Robert, my dog is good And responds quick with all three commands sit, lie and stand. BUT when i give him a series of commands like "lie, sit, lie, stand "" he will start walking taking a step backwards for each command. Should I correct with forcing back in place with a leash?
I believe he does it out of uncontained exitement
Maybe confused. I wouldn’t punish confusion. Try just two commands and see what he does. Do you really need him to perform three in a row?
@@lillieberger2883 he will do it also with two
@@rugeramerican308 would stick to one command at a time. How old is he? What else does he know? Just keep it fun for the both of you.
BRILLIANT 👏
I used to occasionally go on next door, read a post and make a bet with myself about the number of comments it would take for the subject to twist into a flame war. Now its no longer challenging - generally it takes like 2 comments.... thanks for this - all good subjects.
I totally agree!.
A lot of guide dog users and service dog users leave their dogs at home at one point or another. A guide dog user on youtube named joy has left her guide dog at home while going to Disney world and hawaii, Dogs deserve breaks as well.
Wow I never thought of that so .
I don’t have Next door app. My dog was going bananas in our yard one evening for no apparent reason. I looked out at the sidewalk to check for people walking a dog and didn’t see anyone, but he kept barking down the hill into the trees. I went out to find two coyotes, one huge one, right there below the crest of the hill. I made a lot of noise and chased them away. I alerted my immediate neighbors by email. The neighbors across the way have two little dogs that use a dog door and are out alone often. I could never imagine wanting to have animal control take someone’s pet away because nature crept into their yard! Not worried about my guy, he’s big , 130#, loud, and I’m never far away when he’s out.
The issue is that there is zero regulation. I live in Canada but the issue is the same here. I've seen service dogs trained by the disabled owner who were better trained and more temperamentally sound than many service dogs trained by "organizations". So many orgs rip people off of 20k and give them a partially trained anxious wreck of a dog because there is zero regulation. It is really really sad. In addition depending on where you live there may not be a service dog organization that trains dogs for your disability. For example PTSD orgs almost always only train dogs for veterans. Despite the fact that anyone can be affected severely by PTSD. Think 9/11 survivors, rape survivors, police etc. They wouldn't qualify for the organization. Even if they did they probably cant afford 20k for a dog. Even if they can then they have to wait 2-3 years. If all that checks out it turns out the dog may not even be well trained or have a good temperament. Because there is zero regulation in US and Canada. This is why so many people train their own service dogs, many times with the aid of a private trainer. In addition if you get a well trained dog from an organization, if you do not keep up on the training consistently and working them in public, they will stop behaving like service dogs. I have seen many previously well trained dogs from well known organizations slowly degrade in their training until they look like fakes.
I agree with most of what you say but you should know that disabled individuals(including visually impaired ones) can and do successfully train their own service dogs some of whom are even better trained than those from organizations. Problem is that what most people see are the youtuber owner trainer handlers with" anxiety" who are super trigger happy and feel entitled to be better than others. Their dogs are dragged all around, their unsuitable for the job but they appear to act " good enough" that their dogs pass thru the cracks
As a Pilot i agree. i have zero tolerance for this bullshit. i refuse to start the engines unless these issues are addressed.
We looked into a seizure/service dog for my daughter who has severe epilepsy and its $25k and requires a lot of time investment from the trainer and the recipient family. It ticks me off that people are abusing this benefit and making it harder for those who actually need or deserve these animals.
I know for a fact my GSD could "pass" as a Service Animal on a flight, but I won't do it. Why? Because the # of people flying with REAL Service Animals is low. And every time a Service Animal flies, it puts other people at risk if they have serious allergies. The risk to those people is much lower if legally flying dogs are few & far between, reserved for people who REALLY need them. Taking even the best behaved, environmentally "bulletproof" PET on a flight, where a bad allergy sufferer CAN'T get away--that's just 100% unfair and wrong.
'Kids we have to put on the plane' LOL
Terrierized... I laughed at that too.. 😆 🤣
My local dog group is full of fur mommies and AR activists.
Another great video
The Next Door in our community is not like that
Harsh but true. I do wish there were crates on the plain!
PLANE
Ya I personally worry about this, I am training my puppy for service dog program.
I made all the calls to make sure I'm within the law.
Service dogs only.. unfortunately people are abusive with emotional support animals..
I hired a trainer, but there's alot I won't be able to do. So she's going to take my puppy two days a week for more focused attention.
Service dogs need to be trained & CERTIFIED as a service dog that performs a physical service (not mental or emotional support) BTW - I do have an emotional support dog (emotional support dogs ARE NOT A CERTIFIED SERVICE DOG - Certified Service & ‘support’ dogs are 2 different things)
@@FallcryMutt in my state, Service dogs are Certified & support dogs are not. I am truly sorry for your illness- I too am in that disabled list & we likely share some of the same diagnoses
@@FallcryMutt MO
@@lg9189 service dogs are not required to be certified in the US no matter what state you're in.
Wrong. In the US there is NO such thing as a certified service dog.
Love this video. I've been posting about flying and waiving pet rent by registering them as ESA on some social media site. It ends up I was reported so many times and they blocked my account. I just suggested them to not use their pet as ESA if they don't actually have any mental issues. Most of them are people who are non-resident of this country and try to take the pet with them when they go back. There are airlines that can have pets in an oxygenated luggage cabin but they said too many pets are killed there. I think that's just very rare cases but exaggerated by the media. At the end, only those who truly need help are harmed. Airlines started to have more strict rules, landlords start to refuse people with pets. As a person who suffers from severe psychological disorder, I would wish them to make a strict rule about ESA and have the animal passing certain tests to become one. I would have my dog trained and prepared to go to certain places with me.
China southern airline if I remembered it correct is the only Chinese airline that allows the transportation of pets and will check service animal and ESA register in U.S. Most of the international students from China will choose it when bringing their pets home. They have very strict quarantine, vaccination, certification, and crate requirement. However, people still choose to use ESA because it can waive the luggage or their pet is a short-snorted dog/cat which is forbidden. It is very irresponsible to not consider the situation before getting a pet...
@@yclq6693There is no such thing as a registered esa or service dog.
Shouldn't there be a safe place for dogs on planes in cargo? Maybe not on every single flight--but I'd be terrified to take a long flight with my dog below, out of sight, in a space with poor temperature control & poor pressurization. I absolutely wouldn't even consider with a brachiocephalic or small dog--but it makes me terribly nervous even with a large, healthy dog.
I wouldn't fake my GSD on a flight as a Service Animal, even though he'd EASILY pass. But I wish I could feel confident that he could fly safely in the spaces allowed.
Bird breeders and owners fly birds via the cargo service all the time. Keep in mind that birds are far more sensitive and fragile than dogs and that many breeders are shipping out birds worth several thousand dollars each. I have personally shipped very small parakeets to friends via Alaska Cargo and received two of my birds via Delta cargo. It's very safe, otherwise I would never consider doing so with my animals. I liked Alaska Cargo's customer service a lot. I hope that helps!
@@ParrotVolancy Actually, that DOES make me feel much better! Up until a year ago, every time a pug or smooshed face dog died on an airplane, it was front page news. My German Shepherd has a lovely snoot, and thick fur. But there were so many stories. NOW I expect to break up a bar fight or have to wrestle and duct tape nut jobs on every flight, lol!!🤣😂🤣.
Really, thanks though. I guess I don't need to be so worried about my boy on a flight!!💖
@@Karina-Loves-Andreas Yeah, they won't even allow animals on the plane if the temperatures get too high or too low. Do the stories ever mention how the dogs died? I'm guessing a lot of those pugs aren't very healthy and the stress might even be enough to interfere with their breathing?
@@ParrotVolancy Always breathing problems. I'm surprised you never saw the stories, they were always highlighted in the news. Apparently you have to be very careful with smoosh-nosed dogs!
@@Karina-Loves-Andreas I had heard of that happening, actually, I guess I just mostly forgot, haha. I used to be afraid of sending animals on the plane, too, but then I learned about bird breeders doing it as a regular thing over many years and never having issues, and I guess it just changed my perspective. Not a fan of brachycephalic dogs...I feel bad for them.
I work Hank on a long line in my front yard for distance recall Animal control officer called me to say I can't tether my dog and my dogs are outside all night barking LOL so you don't even have to go on next door to have fifty little creatures ps he is the best trained dog around here not just saying it
My owner trained service dog is sick of fakes. My dog is task trained for my disability and I trained him myself. Granted I have trAined dogs for years and that really helped me but there are people who can train their own service dog.
What if I want to travel with my do I was planning to go to Nunavut
Then it would fly as a pet n you will have to pay a pet fee.
I have tried to talk to my neighbor about their dog charging me and my dogs. We have tried casual conversation, casual conversation & beer, casual conversation over beer & bbq to discuss MY dogs (don't want to blame). Their breeding (Cattle Dogs). Their purpose. The potential for conflict between our dogs.
Clearly, they aren't getting the message.
So I asked my local warden and humane officers for other solutions I might have missed (education, fence, beer, & steak). We agreed on an "incident file" in the back of the wardens desk drawer. They (warden & humane officers) know us. I drop off a dog here and there when I cannot find the owner. My Dogs go in for their licenses every year. I am responsible, cautious and aware.
In case of the worst, my dogs get a hold of the neighbor dog; the file can be justification to leave my dogs with me. They can also give me a leg up in any civil proceedings.
So I drop off my "incident" papers when there is a problem. The receptionist date stamps them and files them in her bosses drawer. Call it a quasi complaint.
You do seem to use the terms 'service dog' and 'emotional support animal' interchangeably. They do not have the same meaning.....just saying.
Part of the problem IMO is that there is no centralized registration for legitimate service dogs. The ostensible reason being it would embarrass the disabled person who needs a service dog. So a handler doesn't need any type of proof that a dog is a trained service dog. We need a universal registry for service dogs. A dog has to demonstrate it can do the service for which it is trained before it can be added to the registry. This may cause difficulties and/or embarrassment for some people but the trade-off in the reduction of fake service dogs and ESAs should be worth it. Of course this would require authorities to have a backbone.
Right there is where the genie got let out of the bottle. Service dog is a very specific thing when the airlines ok'd emotional support dogs for anxiety that's a pretty vague definition.
The issue with this is that dogs and other animals need public access experience to get trained. Starting with some basics, a really easy way to eliminate animals is to make EVERY prospective animal pass temperament and obedience test, at minimum Canine Good Citizen test. Then they must wear an "In Training" vest with visible notice until the dog can pass CGC-Urban, in addition to the service aspect of the training. If they cannot be out in public safely, they cannot serve you. Period.
I agree but people use the term interchangeably and that is just my point.
An Esa does not have to be trained in obedience or potty trained. They have been reactive or aggressive toward people n other dogs in public which has caused all the problems as well as being passed off as a Trained n Tasking Service Dog that usually take 2 + years of training.
Had all businesses including the airlines enforced the ADA law ESAs would not of been allowed to cause a problem in the first place bc they would not of been allowed in public not equal to a Service Dog when flying which should never should of been allowed since there was no standard of obedience n public behavior established n enforced n consequences n or fines if owners broke the flying rules for the ESAs.
I wash out more dogs then make it.
Absolutely
It’s not easy to get a real service dog. You have to wait and they are not cheap.
The claim that you can just go online and get them certified, “what” nope no such thing is real.
Yet they do it, then get very upset when you tell them you are making it so difficult for those that really need those dogs.
Lol right put the poop on the yard I guess. Lol
Nosy neighbors have been around a long time.
Actually we all know who those people are we just kept it too ourselves and ignore it, now they broadcast themselves publicly.
Looney people make us want to find a place away from humans. Lol
Or you can owner train
Rules aren't laws. Both sides need to follow the ada laws.
Roasted!
I agree Robert but it is so pathetic that our society has come to this that you even have to have a podcast of this nature.
Agreed
I agree, although service miniature horses should also be allowed (although they need specific training to fly). Some people are allergic or afraid of dogs, so it’s a good alternative.
If you’re allergic to dogs and not to horses there might be a discrepancy. Also what if someone has a service dog on your flight.
@@RobertCabralDogs a service dog should be able to ignore a service horse
@@servicegemsapphire4593 a service horse should ignore a service elephant.... lets be real!
@@RobertCabralDogs there is no such thing as a service elephant, however a service horse is a real thing and a service dog should be conditioned to work around them and vise versa for the service horse. Idk why you brought elephants up.
Robert, great topic! Even for people who work with one trainer to learn how to train their own dog, its pretty much impossible to train a dog for public access and good behavior around other dogs, under heavy distraction, etc. It takes group training and social and environmental conditioning to get a safe dog for public access. AKC has appropriate obedience certifications, and now is developing a temprament certification that confirms a dog is good enough to even START public access training. CGC should be minimum requirement for training access and CGC-U passed before they can be service dog rated. Guess what? Most police dogs and airport security dogs cannot pass that level of obedience and safety. Service dogs must work at a much higher level.
Thats one way to monopolize an entire community of disabled people who have nothing to do with the purebred AKC community who wants to be in charge of all things dogs. It's best to leave it to Trainers who at least have no vested interest in making money off of a huge population with the stoke of a pen. That would be a huge conflict of interest. You have no understanding of the needs of the disabled community n what is best for them n their needs to be met on an equality level by any means.
@@wolpsNb22 Actually, have a family member with a guide dog. We ought to start something where they can test for free to get their pups certified for public access training. You really cant train properly without access. No reason either for all clubs to be akc. My club isnt. However, a certification like CGC is very basic. And any trainer gets paid, AKC or otherwise. Therapy dog organizations also charge a boat load for classes, as do IPO clubs who require BH cert for temprament and obedience before going forward. Its a means of limiting a person's liability by having a properly trained dog, rather than a minimally trained dog that will create an issue and break their hearts as well as their wallets if their dog gets injured or they get sued. Its wisdom, not super control.
@@katsim6799 Who would be deciding the standards for those in a wheelchair or arms not able to hold a leash, who would be paying for such testing n where would it be located for the disabled people who do not or cannot drive??? What you're suggesting would be a very extensive n financially taxing issue to almost all disabled people who need access with their Service Dogs. All that would need to be done as of right now is for businesses to enforce the law of any dog whether labeled Service Dog or not that is causing a problem on a business to ask them to leave their store. Repeated offenders have a place to report n go before a judge who can rule whether it is a Service Dog or not n fined n jail time. Problem addressed without an enormous amount of time, energy, money on everyone's part.
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You are spot on!! I am going to train my puppy as a service animal with the help of a professional trainer and the membership I have with you because I know I need help. If she doesn’t make it then we will have a fantastic dog that will be well trained anyway. My breeder breeds working dogs in particular. He has bred and trained military dogs, police dogs, and more so I’m fairly confident that our girl will be a good candidate but, I don’t have any blinders on about it. I have watched the channels that call out “fake service dogs” and most of them are really pathetic. I see some that are genuine, but most of the dogs I see that they claim are service dogs aren’t. Thanks Robert for your honesty! Mele Kalikimaka!! 🤙🏼🎄🏝☀️
****Addition to the above comment because some people seem to be concerned that I am part of the problem:
I am getting a female Labrador Retriever that has been bred from a line of working dogs that have been trained in hunting and in service work. Please don’t take the fact that my breeder has bred and trained Military and police dogs in the past the wrong way. He now breeds working Labradors and he is not going to be training my puppy. I have another professional trainer lined up to help with this.
You will find that any good breeder of working dogs raise their litters with bio stimulation in the same manner when between the ages of 3 days to 18 days of age and then bio-stressing later to make sure their temperament is good for the type of work they are going to be trained for. They are just trained differently in respect to what they are going to end up doing.
I think you missed the point. You are part of the problem.
@@paintedpony2935 actually I’m not and I would really like you to explain how you come to that conclusion. Please read my whole comment. I am employing a professional trainer (not just watching Robert’s videos). BTW I have PTSD and do qualify for a service dog. It will take at least 2 yrs to train my puppy if she is suitable.
Service Dogs by law are not to be taught aggressive or bite work by trainers bc it disqualified your dog to be a Service Dog by the ADA law. If you n your SD got into a problem in public bc of reactivity, protection work or bite work raining the ADA law would not cover your dog n if you ended up in court it could be financial ruins for you n disastrous results for your dog.
@@wolpsNb22 You’re right. My breeder no longer breeds military and police dogs (Malinois and GSD) he is breeding working Labrador’s that have been used as service dogs and as hunting dogs. Please don’t get your panties in a knot because my breeder has trained Military dogs in the past. I stated that because he understands dogs better than most do. 😊 I have read and understand service dog requirements. Thank you for making a point though. Perhaps I should have explained that the “and more” were service animals and therapy dogs. My trainer that I am employing is not my breeder.
I’m glad I heard this prior to signing up on toy web site. My suggestion is to stick to what you know which is dig training. You speak of others having issues, it seems to me you are sitting judgement on a lot of folks. I’m unsubscribing.